Bronze Age Pervert Magenta Notebooks - EPISODE 191_ NICK LAND

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• 00:01:13

  to Caribbean Rhythms, this episode 191. I'm here with Nick Land. He needs no introduction, world-famous accelerationist, thinker, philosopher, and writer. Welcome to Caribbean Rhythms, Nick. I'm very happy to be here. It's been a while, actually. We've had something lined up for quite a long time. Yes, we've been…

• 00:21:33

  So I would say you're more like neo-reactionary adjacent or in some more interesting elliptical relation to it. But generally, there was a... There was a sense of it, which I think drew a lot from Peter Thiel's, like, brief remark that he thought freedom and democracy had become incompatible. And there was, I think…

• 00:43:06

  And I think he recently saw he had alienated his closest allies, his only allies really, for nothing at all. Because what really was it over? Government spending when, we can get into that if you want. I just think it was unwarranted, his outburst. But it felt like an internet meltdown, like I see sometimes. We used…

• 01:01:28

  He says the gods put language in their chests and taught them how to do things. I think this is completely possible. At the moment, I have heard about the programming capabilities of some of these robots. Yes. Of these AI tools, but I use the most advanced version of ChatGPT, which was recommended to me as it's…

• 01:23:32

  And it's not a war that, therefore, is the playing out of some conceptual development or some essential... There's no essential kind of moral advance going to take place in this. It's, like, extremely important that... that all of Europe thought they were Trojans. You know, the Greeks, I guess, are kind of the heroes…

• 01:45:40

  So if someone was to ask me, well, what do you believe? I mean, I would find that word a little bit inappropriate, but I would say, well, look at this. I mean, look at this diagram. That's what I believe. And anything else is at a subordinate level. And what does that diagram say about the cosmos? It says, well…

• 02:07:08

  I mean, I have a record of being overexcited about apocalyptic prediction. Like, you know, it's not that the CCRU thought the millennium bug was going to actually end the world, but we got very excited about it. I was very sort of for unconvincing numerical reasons, convincing at the time but unconvincing to anyone…

• 02:25:46

  Thank you. And until next time, Bap out. No, Harry. It's safer in here now. It'll get worse out there. Every species can smell its own extinction. The last ones left won't have a pretty time of it. And in ten years, maybe less, the human race will just be a bedtime story for their children. A myth. Nothing more.