CTM 2020 On k-punk—Egress and the Fisher Function

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Adjudicated APPROVED 2026-07-11 (basis: owner ruling 2026-07-11: institutional recordings released except fee-charging course content; lane recent-institutional -> recent-institutional-released). Series: standalone. Source: audio original (.mp3).

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• 00:00:00

  Special thanks to CTM and Transmedial for helping make this happen. Rather than do the general pattern of reading out very long bios for each panellist, I think we can cut through that and maybe just have each panellist introduce themselves and a little bit about what they do and then we can dive right in. It'll save…

• 00:07:40

  So I'm not getting, as the web becomes more standardized, and there's a uniform thing to how things are meant to look, at the same time, what's happening behind it is far more chaotic, you know, if you choose to internalize it, which most of us do. I mean, I think there's something like Apple censoring Instagram…

• 00:14:25

  But. It was a teleology. Yeah, yeah, right. Like an expression of a, well, I guess she's talking about life and death drives. I guess if you to go that way with it, it's where you fit in a fundamentally human or existential mode rather than capitalist commodified instance of being of a time and being timeless, being…

• 00:21:48

  Well, I think if it's dialogical, because if you're just being hyperbolic, then... I mean, what is that? If it's actually analytical, it looks at different sides of something, maybe it argues something outside of what you would normally think about. It challenges your perception. Maybe, like, could you resolve liking…

• 00:28:32

  It's, the solution to it definitely isn't this thing that was happening ten years ago with Berghain Techno and having faceless records with just a stamp on it. That's not the solution to the thing. That's like Margiela. Pardon? That's like Margiela. Okay. Like having an anti-logo. Yeah, but again, that's…

• 00:39:08

  Because that's the one thing I think is really significant in some ways, is that here is somebody who went on to be really influential and contribute a lot and shaped public discourse, and he came from our world. He comes from this scene. And this is because of his engagement with this sort of thing, that…

• 00:48:13

  So egress as an exit or a door as Matt talks about a lot in his book although Mark does explain it in his book, The Word in the Airy but maybe Matt should explain the concept of egress. Do you want to contextualize that a bit more in terms of where you're going? Well I meant that in terms of it's an entry point into…

• 01:05:32

  that this meant to make everything so smooth and everything's a bit shit and it was his way of drawing attention to that as a way to when you're aware of those things then you can imagine well you start with you pick a small hole in something like that like your experience at the supermarket and you can widen that…