HTNM Panel - New Ecologies of Mind with Yuk Hui, and Luciana Parisi

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• 00:00:00

  Okay, welcome back. Thank you for staying. So this is going to be a panel discussion with audience participation as well. But what we'd like to do is, first of all, introduce the panel again more formally. We have my right, Warren Sack from UC Santa Cruz, and he is not just a professor, but also the chair of film…

• 00:07:18

  I'm talking about Freddy, Freddy Kittler's school, where everything is, where media is understood as a tool, a tool relating to other tools, and therefore they, it kind of pushes forward the understanding of philosophy of media, and knowledge through media, and process of mediation, as embedded within this kind…

• 00:17:30

  We are already living in this special temporal dimension, and it's not just because of social media, because there are some kind of production of time and space through algorithms, through algorithms and data, through metadata, big data, algorithms and hardware, that are somehow becoming opaque or untransparent…

• 00:26:11

  Lifting a weight to a given height... If you lift a... If you lift a... If I lift my backpack... If I lift my backpack... Up to the stage... I've done some work. But then if I put it back down... I've just done negative work. Okay? So... It's very... It's very odd. If... Let's say what you're trying to do is... Let's…

• 00:35:45

  Okay. That's, that's a really different thing. So there's cybernetics. I think it's one moment when this struggle is happening, but I think this is also a most second waves cybernetics, which very much took place on this campus as well. Um, but this contemporary discussion of is an attempt to really cut across…

• 00:43:22

  But it's also because it's framed already according to a language that seems intuitive, but actually you really need to break it down. There's so many layers that we don't see. And that's where the kind of time issue comes back, because you recurse in terms of... Right. Yeah. Because I find your question very…

• 00:52:29

  It's very clear. Period. What you're saying is politics is identical to the politics of the algorithm. No. Did Marx use that very pin example? Yes, I believe I did. Pins run through. So it was Perronet, who was the first director of the Pont des Chaussées, which was, who did the anthropographic work, an engineer…

• 01:01:11

  But I really want to thank both Warren and Luciana especially you for coming all the way from Germany. Thank you so much for coming over here and thanks for having us.