Mark Fisher vs. Nick Land featuring Nicholas Blincoe (2)

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• 00:00:00

  Hello, everyone. Welcome back to Zero Books and Repeater Media. I am Craig from Asset Horizon, and I'm also joined by our co-host and sometimes host, Adam here. And today we have the pleasure of speaking with Nicholas Blinko, who is an English author, critic, and screenwriter. He has written for British radio…

• 00:08:40

  We were making music in new digital ways. The MIDI technology was entirely new. The guitars were kind of disappearing, we felt. So it did feel as though everything was changing. We needed a philosophy that talked about this change. And Nick Land arriving at Warwick, just... Warwick needed, I guess, some kind…

• 00:13:44

  So we had to kind of reinvigorate our critique. And in many ways, Marx was still the inspiration because Marx was saying that everything was economics. I wrote my own PhD on economics because everything was economics. Again, I didn't know Mark Fisher. And he came to work when I'd already finished my PhD. But…

• 00:21:13

  everything because i remember in the recent interview lan talks about capital like a mushroom because he thinks that capital now is any self-reproducing process and i guess this really comes into it in its sort of nascent stage or sort of almost fetal stage in how he tries to rewrite blade runner in the opening…

• 00:29:06

  Yeah, I mean, what do you think of this notion of security, the human security system? Does he think it really is this, it is kind of the, you know, taking away repetitive beats. You know, Capital wants you to listen to rock and roll, wants you to be fully stable. You know, you're stuck in the family, in dad rock…

• 00:34:41

  I mean, it's clear that where all the movement's happening, where all the outside is, that's the war machine, the schizophrenia, and also capital. And the inside, where the repression is happening, that's state, politics, the black holes, paranoia. That's where politics is happening that's kind of different…

• 00:40:07

  And there's all kinds... There's all kinds of crime. There's bourgeois crime. There's the idea of delinquency, like whether it's being delinquent with rent, for example. So living in a time where mortgage interest rates are super high and that's pulling up rental rates, that throws people who are indigent populations…

• 00:47:06

  Yeah. Yeah. So I invite any of the patrons at this time, if you want to hop in the chat and ask your question and kind of queue up, we'll ask questions to Nick and, uh, this will be more of an informal discussion. And I wanted to start it off with. A…