NCCP 700-1015 — Anthropol The Future of Human Insecurity (Session 5)

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• 00:00:00

  Hey. All right, so thanks for joining us for our fifth session of the Anthem Poll, the Future of Human Security. We'll start with Nick. So, Nick, are you there? Okay. Yeah. So we're off? Oh, yes. Yes, we're off. Okay. So, as agreed, I hope, last week, we're sort of hit peak insanity with Roko's Basilisk…

• 00:20:03

  It's always in a relationship with the Turing test and the imitation game. And in this case, the twist is that Yudkowsky is imitating a super intelligence, which is something he feels slightly, notably happy and comfortable about, it has to be said. But there's a logic to that. And the logic is that if he can outsmart…

• 00:39:47

  So I think that omega is, you know, I think that's how omega and counting can be glued together. I think omega is a, is a theoretical machine to, to stress people's Kantian structures of time intuition. And, and, and when Yudkowsky takes the route he's going, he says, I think implicitly he's saying, even if something…

• 01:01:18

  To kind of, like, clean it up for each iteration. But when you say perfect, is this perfect in a way that you think is perfectable? Or perfect in the sense that it's moving asymptotically towards a limit? Perfect as in, um, make it impossible to subvert. So... Maybe there is, yeah, a final state. Fine. Um... Good…

• 01:20:49

  The interesting sort of dilemma that this gets into is that because they are both moving targets, they constantly have to realign themselves off of the other. So it's very curious as to how we conceive of the endpoint based on where they're based. Based on where they're both at now, but that endpoint constantly keeps…

• 01:40:31

  He's always the general. He's always the general behind the lines. And then you have... There are these big sort of beefy feudal warrior types that he tends to revile to death. Though I think at another point, he gets in an intellectual argument with a bunch of people and manages to insult one of them to death…

• 01:58:04

  Which is great, I think, but... not necessarily... something many people... I think it is interesting. I mean, to be honest, I haven't sort of... you know, I've lost track of lots of interesting stuff. I mean, I've seen... um... but... um... Well this, I mean, this is... One of the... Sorry. No, no, no, go, go, go. I…

• 02:25:42

  So... Okay, sounds good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.