Nick Land Interview “The Only Thing I Would Impose Is Fragmentation”

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• 00:00:00

  So if we started just with the first question in your 2014 book, the complexity disorder loops through Shanghai time, you write, and I quote, what happened to America is a cyberpunk question par excellence. End of quote. What really happened according to you to America in the last few months? Well, I'd forgotten that…

• 00:16:11

  So this is, I mean in a way this is just pop area. I mean, I think that that Karl Popper is just on that level. Totally, totally right. But I think every element that is crucial has to be beyond. If it's politically negotiable, it's useless. It's unscientific by definition. you know you you don't trust scientists…

• 00:38:33

  So maybe it's like a disjointed answer is the only one that is actually. Practical or realistic. I mean, I would say. For one thing, the. The utter infamy of near reaction. While I think. I mean, it's not a text that I've not read the dark enlightenment for a long time. And I think. But this is something I think. It's…

• 00:57:30

  You know, he who's right. Who speaks about, you know, only members of the same habit of socializing and reproducing. And then when, for example, when the right talks about this, like this really similar ideas, it's immediately. Like, how do you say interpret as talk about not just speciation, but you know, like this…

• 01:08:36

  So in that sense, it's a kind of leftist orientation. You can disagree with it, of course. People can criticize it as they did. But there was no suggestion that it was... Oh, no, I'm lying. I mean, there was a suggestion that it would have come from the right. Obviously, at that stage of its articulation, it's…

• 01:19:45

  By the way, thanks for the Sishin's Death's End reference. I was screaming while reading. Oh, yeah, yeah, yes. Oh, yeah. It's an amazing piece of work, isn't it? Yeah. It's crazy. But if we continue this talk about natural sciences meeting the mythos, in a way... The occult. The occult. There is this... This event…

• 01:33:36

  That's like really interesting, you know, because then they're left, you know, from some perspective and so on and so on, which you, of course, oppose with the fascism interpretation. But I'm just asking you, like, is this like your exploration of Pasolini's program, but, you know, without the in advancing someone…

• 01:49:31

  the anthropol, the... the human securities and what's ultimately being protected there is not some real thing that is mankind. It's the structure of illusory identity that has been crystallized up to a certain point in history. Just as at the more micro level, it's not that as an organism are being threatened…