red-ice-interviews-190529-the-dark-enlightenment-neoreaction-and-modernity-pt2

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• 00:00:00

  Well boys and girls, welcome back. Thank you so much for tuning in. We're speaking with Nick Land, one of the leading voices, one of the leading thinkers, really you could say, within the dark enlightenment or the neo-reactionary movement. He's written a lot on the subject together with, of course, Moldbug, and we're…

• 00:10:07

  Yes. Well, yes, I think that's exactly the issue and I think there's huge grounds for confidence that there are strong tides In the direction of as a no to use your word. I think is it exactly the word we should we should be focusing on real Diversity, you know and on the macro scale. I think we already…

• 00:21:22

  One of them is that, as you say, Wilders was defeated in Holland. I forget the name of the Austrian guy who was defeated. Le Pen has been defeated. But all of these people are defeated on hugely rising waves. I mean, the basic tide behind all of those elections is entirely to the discomfort of the ruling European…

• 00:34:13

  and you know um maybe a society under those conditions could could could host a large foreign population but it would at least be have the security that its regime is not going to be in hands of the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the the policy policy policy policy policy…

• 00:46:45

  I mean, I've got no problems with that at all. But isn't there interest to make sure that we can't have any interest and they actually want to be in proximity to us, to fight us, right? They're like, when you propose these ideas, and I have to if you left us here and there. Even someone said, you know, oh my God…

• 00:52:41

  Interesting. So it's not an existential threat to us at the end, you think? That there's no defensive position that we need to take to, I mean, I know that that's their argument too. I know this isn't back and forth, but it's like, it feels to me that these are, these are expressions of very, very old forces that…

• 00:58:57

  Yeah. Yeah. So it's absolutely fascinating. I mean, they, they do make some of these, you know, mental gymnastics and, and Ben's like pretzels to find ways to, to explain this by, I mean, I've even heard arguments where they talk, where they talk about how Sweden's iron ore were going to make…

• 01:04:28

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