(Session 1) Questions

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• 00:00:00

  I just wonder if either of you actually think that land has a theory of capitalism, because it seems to me that this is simply an aesthetics, a kind of extrapolation, very common I suppose extrapolation from a certain lyrical vision of capitalism which you of course to one extent or another famously encounter. In…

• 00:03:51

  And in that sense I might agree that ideologically speaking it's an interesting counterpart, but I wouldn't say that it's an interesting theory if I mean I don't know. But I think in a way to raise highlighted the issue the whole status of theory and that goes back to Leotard right and the vegan economy for this…

• 00:08:14

  kind of frankfurt school kind of you know kind of advocates you know that by whom he was kind of taught. The other argument against it is okay if the appeal is to the high positional kind of efficacy of things well you know Nick's texts have limited high positional efficacy and they didn't feed back into capitalism…

• 00:12:55

  inscribing the difficulty of your own position with this kind of romance element in there so if i could just observe that as a well just as something which seems to me problematic i mean in a sense if you're going to maintain this argument to the extent you seem to be theoretically out mining it you should dispense…

• 00:16:05

  take alexander yeah this one is uh i mean i probably kind of agree with rock to a limited extent um on the point that i think it is somewhat illegitimate to um attempt to valorize someone like land via a sort of romantic individualistic conception even though we might want to use his name to indicate like…

• 00:20:49

  there because at the same time as it um for him it's almost unintelligible at some level uh to the other extent i think the real aim of his project is towards this is towards this kind of uh obliteration of this problematic thing which so so i mean i guess it's always kind of self-reputing to that extent because…

• 00:25:32

  revolutions around the corner and that book is very much written in that tone if we look at thousand plateaus by late 70s it's a much more sober tone it's well actually you can't de-territorialize too much and the book has all these images of people who did de-territorialize too much drug addicts and so on and there's…

• 00:30:06

  so the only kind of accelerationism that wouldn't make sense is some kind of instrument one isn't it it's not an absolute accelerationism as you've sort of indicated that's that's the nonsense i was i was just saying why aren't we then describing this as the reform of capitalism why are we why are we saying well there…