8 MAYA B CHRONIC - Immanence and Esotericism - Doing it for the Gram

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Self-transcribed from the recording's audio/video with Whisper ASR, then drawn from the frozen curation of the CCRU oral archive. The identifiers below fingerprint the exact source transcript files.

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• 00:00:00

  And Mai is sharing her slides, so in the very least, we'll be able to watch the screen share of the slides. Mik-Hal is sharing the visuals. We'll turn off the mic. Yeah, perfect. OK. So many windows. Stream that from here. Yeah. OK, yeah. All right. Is it working for him? Are you doing an intro? Yeah, I'll do a quick…

• 00:12:11

  So this is really this double meaning, which I always talk about, of cybernetic culture. It's about cultures which have been infiltrated by technical systems, cybernetic systems, but it's also about understanding cultures as cybernetic systems. And it's about actually doing cybernetic culture, not simply writing about…

• 00:22:42

  There isn't anything special. It's a methodological decision in the sense that what we're doing is deciding not to address popular numeracy by framing it inside what D&G would call a supplementary dimension. We're not like taking a distance and measuring base 10 against others. We want to enter imminently into…

• 00:34:18

  It's a very, it's, it's a system, it's a number system that exists prior to that. And it's to do with differences from zero. Also, it's to do with like attention from zero. Each subsequent bracketing, each subsequent shell of the ordinal number produces a great attention because in a sense everything wants to collapse…

• 00:44:55

  And now we see that the scissors are just a special case of an ulterior system of intensities. There is in fact, all these, they're not just currents, but there are also these little minor undercurrents which irrigate the, the numagram. Okay. So now we've constructed the numagram. Sorry, I didn't say, but obviously…

• 00:57:56

  sense. I don't mean to insult anybody. But here's where it starts getting a little bit flaky. Because I could decide that I'm going to map the numogram onto the chemical elements or onto species of fish or onto different types of Haribo. You can do it. If you put the work in, you could do it. And it will be more…

• 01:09:22

  That's the way it coheres. And this construction is also why CCRU is important today for contemporary online culture, right? It's not. It's not because it's a weird esoteric symbol to impress your friends with. It's not really like other memetic cultures and esoteric sects. There's no authority. There's no secrets. Of…

• 01:23:09

  And the rules were like not the best thing to me.