Anthropol The Future of Human Insecurity (Session 5)

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• 00:00:00

  All right, so thanks for joining us for the fifth session of the Anthem Poll, Future of Human Security. We'll start with Nick. So, Nick, you there? Okay. Yeah. So we're off? Oh, yes. Yes, we're off. Okay. So as agreed, I hope, last week, we're sort of hit peak insanity with Rocco's Basilisk, and are now going…

• 00:18:55

  So that's, I think I'll just treat that as a kind of little unit. And I won't take long, I'll now just get on to the AI box experiment. So I think the whole of the AI box experiment can be treated as if it's about this problem, about the problem of preemption. Because what he's trying to say, he's maxing for that…

• 00:37:28

  And someone will say, look, it's not really about time. In that way. Whereas, I mean, I cannot see this over a surreptitious way of talking about a time disturbance. And I think that the connection with what you're saying is that because, I mean, the time paradoxes are almost the kind of epitome of paradox in general…

• 00:58:45

  So you have a notion of auto production, you have a notion of something feeding back into itself, its output kind of supports its input and the tighter that becomes the closer it looks to a actual closed loop structure. But my, maybe my, this is just my vestigial sort of does anyone else have a What was the last thing…

• 01:19:40

  He always tries to be, in his own terms, very sensible. And so he's not seeing this as some peculiar speculative idea. It's just a piece of basic cognitive machinery that he thinks everyone needs to make sense of very straightforward things. I mean, obviously, the chicken and egg problem is because there are chickens…

• 01:39:57

  I mean, you know, one connection would be that your susceptibility to being insulted to death is actually positively correlated with the kind of virtues and characteristics that would make you in a position of high command. Yeah. Maybe. That's an interesting... So there's this kind of... You know. I think... Well…

• 02:01:08

  And that's... I mean, like, you know, you can argue this really easily through rigore and the specular economy, the fact that you always have this thing that's on the outside of the economy that creates its value from imposing identity. So it's already an argument against identity and subjectivity. But it just places…

• 02:25:23

  Okay. Does that sound fair? If that's cool. I mean, if anyone's got a round of discussions with Trigger, then I think we could do that. Okay. That sounds definitely fine as well, so. Okay, sounds good.