Nick Land at Theory Underground

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• 00:00:00

  All right, everybody, welcome to Theory Underground. What you're about to listen to is an interview that we did with Nick Land last week. Very exciting that he was able to join us, considering how important he is for thinking the situation today. Okay, Michael Downs, aka Mikey of the Mikey Seminar here at TU, taught…

• 00:27:32

  Before you even make it specifically a question about artificial intelligence and computers. Right. Because, I mean, if we take that circuit of capital Marx talks about and we subtract the content, the form of it is just one, zero, one prime. So it's just a loop of augmentation. And so, yeah, it's like he created…

• 00:57:31

  Well, I don't know. I mean, insofar as those high human capacities exist, which of course they do, it seems to me they're being catered to. I mean, you know, there are concert halls, there's orchestras, there's music sales. You can be a professional musician. You can be a professional musician because things…

• 01:22:10

  it's very sympathetic to these cerne check and williams and inventing the future yeah they're about it i mean but as you as as somebody on the right or you know somebody who's profoundly pro-capital i mean there's a sense where it's like okay if if if if there's no one to buy this i mean it's like…

• 01:43:09

  Um, and I think that's kind of, um, at least my difference. You're, you're, you're saying like, in fact, I do, I view capital as, uh, an alien invader. It's, it's this God and it is trying to compete for us, um, for the resources because it is also just a metabolism machine. Like we're just the solar anus, you know…

• 02:09:33

  Yeah. And so that's, that's more of what I mean by a block theory of time where it's all there. No, I would, I would strongly endorse that for sure. Okay. Okay. Like, I mean, I think it's just in our tradition, what is meant by eternity. You know, it's a, it's a private term. It just is the same. It's just, it's just…

• 02:38:08

  We had no hint that this was true. I mean, I don't even remember when I discovered, like not long ago. So it's like, yeah, I take it. I think that the CCRU was just excessively condescendingly snide about the AOE. I mean, the AOE is like, no doubt, in many ways, sublimely evil, but they have a lot to teach us. So…

• 03:15:34

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