Roundtable #1 Cassin, Brassier, Düttmann, Toscano

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• 00:00:00

  So, we've had two outstanding presentations today by Barbara Cassin and by Alexander Garcia-Dutman. So, Barbara's paper was a kind of presentation of the general field of her research on the relation between sophistry and philosophy, with particular attention at the end of the paper to Lacan and the problem…

• 00:13:24

  What do you call that when you run across country and... Cross country running. Okay. That's the only term that came to mind. They are doing cross country running. And there is that moment when they are basically... They go into this sauna, and it's part of that. I don't know, don't ask me why. And they are all... And…

• 00:26:42

  I think here there is a real point and we have to try to deal with it. Because when Alexander speaks, I was wondering, but what, who is a contemporary artist? And if, for example, Bill Voila is... No, no, he's not. Ah, good. Very happy. So I think that, because he is certainly an artist with a... I don't like…

• 00:45:50

  cannot be repeated and that cuts through yes as it were so either you reinscribe that within a big which that's why I wanted like you know a bigger frame which you have set up for the the more or less and say yes you know it's a kind of lesser kai boss as it were or you have a really strong logic of the kai boss…

• 01:01:27

  Without consideration of anything else. And let us, let us imagine Lacan. That's why I always take Aristotle on Lacan. Lacan, of course, is always dealing with . And it is, of course, his point. And the equivocity, there is no proper meaning. There is no proper and improper meaning. There are many meanings of . And…

• 01:14:37

  So there must be all the contexts possible, and then all the contexts possible, and it is chosen by itself. You see, the meaning is chosen by itself, by the number of contexts. It's very interesting. And it's something that we, a cloud of words in the cloud, is the most interesting way of thinking of equivokes…

• 01:24:34

  It seems to be a convergence here. Well, I don't think we agree on the term communication then. I just mean it's not a medium for anything. It's not a medium. So, it seems to me that... what Ray, you're bringing up, was an attempt to sort of... not to necessarily to defend, although I see that that's your view…

• 01:38:08

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